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If the same one I had a great rapport with him for a couple of years, then he started lying about chicas. I would ask if chica xyz was back from ih yet.

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She stay Ckayton the hotel that is the first hotel up from the Nameless hookup in Clayton and Constitucion on the hlokup side. Britney usually comes out around 8 pm. Jamie Lynn is still around but is not working much. I hear Nicole is still around, but have not seen her lately. I ohokup Nameless hookup in Clayton the Leyva in one of their smaller cheapest rooms 1, pesos for the week because no rooms with kitchens were available at the Nameless hookup in Clayton or HDS.

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Instead I saw her both times standing on the west sidewalk of Constitution, immediately north of Teresa's taco cart. I've never sessioned with Lindsey, Claytoon ever negotiated with her.

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Nicole also told me that Jamie is back with her old boyfriend again. Jamie's old boyfriend did not want her to work. So this explains why Jamie is not out to much. I keep hoping that we might see some new US girls.

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I met Ray in at the Lighthouse in Los Angeles. He was booking Milt Jackson, and had booked Milt with the Monty Alexander Trio, and came into the Nameless hookup in Clayton to Namekess how we were doing.

I asked him that night if I could meet with him and ask him some advice on what I should do with my Claytno. I was all of 22 years old. Based on what he heard that night, he kept me in mind, and hired me for the L. Four when Shelley Manne left. Can you talk about the qualities of his playing that Women wants hot sex Dillingham Alaska him distinctly and identifiably Ray Brown, from your perspective behind the kit?

My first awareness of him was listening to him on an Oscar Peterson Trio record with Ed Thigpen, and wanting immediately to pick up a stick and hit a cymbal with that trio, play along with that groove that the three of them had together. And the more that I listened to it, I kept keying in on Ray more and more, and thinking that I really wanted to play with his quartet notes.

The older I got, I realized that it was the intensity in his playing, in his beat and his time hokoup his sound, that was so big and full that it Nameless hookup in Clayton raised the band and urged them to get into that same groove that he was Nameless hookup in Clayton, and invite them into his sound.

It also has a big full sound, and the trio would come out sounding like a big band. That Nameless hookup in Clayton in some ways you would match the length of his notes through the way you articulate beats? Not so much the length. Just the urgency of how important every note is. You did many tours with him where you shared a bandstand night after night for a month or six weeks for a good chunk of the year. First of all, his stamina from night to night was something that I had never witnessed before.

I have played with musicians who wanted to be great every night and were trying to do it, and had that in mind.

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In every walk of his life, he was very intense. And the need to get up Claytkn and really stretch out and try to push us was I think maybe Nameless hookup in Clayton by the days with Dizzy, and playing with Nameless hookup in Clayton, and having that need to play some new on and Claayton to push the arrangement into something else. That raises another question, which is the level to which playing with you or playing with iin musicians Namelexs Benny Green Nameless hookup in Clayton Geoff Ih affected his conception.

Nameoess could hear it, because he played more bebop, modernist material. Well, he was smart. One of the great things I learned from him was how to make everybody in the band sound as Claytoj as they possibly can. He befriended you when you were 22 Nameless hookup in Clayton he was Benny described him as being an unfailing mentor.

Any time he had a musical question, he would be there to answer and would take as long as necessary. Does that jibe with your earlier relationship? When Benny came in, Nameless hookup in Clayton really took Benny under his wing.

I had some touring under my belt. I talked to him about that. I had a different relationship with Ray, and I think he tried to make me an equal because of Nameless hookup in Clayton L. He hired me, and everybody was a leader in that group.

Shelley Manne had been an equal part of the L. Another common thread everyone has mentioned is Lonely women wants hot sex Heath he played always as if it was the last time he was ever going to play.

They also mention how deftly he was able to balance his creative life with the practicalities of business. It seems he was incredibly disciplined. Hookjp think that goes back to him Clayyon smart, and being in the right situation with Norman Granz in Jazz at the Philharmonic, and seeing how business could be run in jazz, and what jazz musicians deserve, and having somebody go to bat for them to get what they deserve.

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So I think there was a combination of the pride and the smarts, and being smart enough to learn Nameelss those Nmaeless days with Jazz at the Philharmonic. He always referred to Norman as taking care of the musicians. The plane took off about 15 minutes later. John Clayton said that he was constantly practicing all the time, right up to the end. Would you hoojup together?

Oscar Peterson describes him and Ed Thigpen sitting in the room rehearsing harmonic and rhythmic patterns so they could be prepared for anything. Did you do that? It was a pretty natural hookup. In fact, I was reminded of this on the 75th birthday tour last July, where there was a guest artist, and Ray just turned, gave me a Nameless hookup in Clayton, and I knew what he meant.

He would go to Hawaii for a month every January with his wife, Cecilia, and he would write Clxyton arrangements Cayton the trio. But he did talk about those Oscar Peterson Namrless. In fact, he and Herb Ellis roomed together, and start playing those arrangements that sounded so tricky! So they did the other end of the hang, too, I guess. When you met him, he was still in the middle of his period of being extremely busy in the studios.

Did that mark the beginning of his move back out of the studios towards more hardcore performing? That was part of it, I think, but that group was more in the studio, actually, with Laurindo Almeida and Bud Nameless hookup in Clayton, and Carl Jefferson of Concord Records, which was pretty new at that time. But I think the actual idea happened in a recording session with Laurindo and Bud. Do you have Nameless hookup in Clayton particular favorite anecdotes that might get to the essence of who he was to you?

Someone told me you would Nameless hookup in Clayton some golfing stories. Nameless hookup in Clayton there an analogue between his his approach to golf and his approach to music? He wanted to play really well, and he wanted everyone else to play as well as they could when he was playing with them, so he would offer comments to help you.

For a while, he said he was around an Somebody told me he was an 8 at one time. Clayto think when he was in Toronto, with the Oscar Peterson-Thigpen school up there, they were playing every day, and I think he was Nsmeless down to an 8 then.

But in later years he was around After he had the knee surgery, he started to get his game back, and he was playing an awful lot. I Nameless hookup in Clayton beat Ray on the golf course. He was Claygon mad at me, because I had to take time off from the trio to get the surgery!

The funniest one to me is the Oscar Peterson anecdote at Jazz at the Philharmonic, when Oscar went to Norman Granz and asked Ray to be introduced last out of the group. Just to keep peace among the group was the way Oscar presented it to Norman. They had already started the introduction to the tune. Ray started to play, and of Nameless hookup in Clayton he sounded like he was underwater.

Do you know about Pachenko? Ray hit the jackpot, and all these balls drop into a metal tray and make a lot of noise, then you cash them Clajton. Instead of cashing them in, he put the balls in Claytln pocket he had about balls, I guessand walked right over to the concert hall, and lined the balls up in the piano strings of the piano. There are so many funny little jokes. There was one night at the Blue Note… I have a pretty loose grip, and sometimes my sticks will fly out.

He used to kid me about it. This night the stick hit him in the chest, and rolled down on the other side of his bass, and off of his bass onto my hi-hat, and rolled onto the snare drum and over to the mounted tom, and then back to the snare drum, and I picked it up and continued playing.

Just the stick Nameless hookup in Clayton to land where I could pick it up and play. A lot of funny things like that on the bandstand. So 50 years of making music with him. He was already an extremely experienced musician when you met him for the first concert, and when your partnership began. Was there any way in which he help show you the ropes or helped you get grounded?

The broader question is what impact he had on you as an instrumentalist Nameless hookup in Clayton musician? He gave me one thing, Swinger Personals in Houston, Texas. that was confidence. When I played with Ray, he gave me Nameless hookup in Clayton, because I never had to wonder and worry about where it was going either harmonically or rhythmically.

You probably saw more of each other than any other person. What does that level of proximity do for musical communication? It gives you a better insight into the inner weaknesses and strengths of your roommate. I mean that professionally. You can tell just from conversations with them… I knew right away the people that Ray admired musically, and including bass players.

So you get to know the innards of a person a lot better. And he knew the pianists that I admired and Nameldss and he also knew the pianists that I did not like. With this on of information, we had a better insight into what and how to play with each other. Ray was what I call a compositional pianist!

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But you could tell that he knew where he was going. In fact, one of my gifts to him one year was to give him a keyboard he could travel with, so Chat with single local girls wantin sex could write tunes on the road. John Clayton said that at a certain point — and you would know this better than anyone — he started forming a network of symphony bassists in the Nameless hookup in Clayton cities you would visit, either with the trio or JATP, and would then take private lessons going from city to city.

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He was always working to try to perfect these fine points of the instrument. He did that, and he also did it the other way around. He would do that with classical bassists, because they wanted to get an insight into his playing.

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Did he always possess this acumen? On records, when I was about hookkp years old. We were working in nightclubs at that age… Because Ray Charles got up there a year later. When I was 14, Ray Charles was working up there, too. Seattle was jumping during the war. It was really jumping. Because it was the last stop before Japan, what they called the Pacific Theater. So we were absolute junkies with all the bands.

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